Friday, October 9, 2009
Building your network and map of success ( Positive Mental attitude)
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Bdsl and Danskin connect in real time
Yes
http://www.clips4sale.com/store/22453
he shoots on an excel 2
good quality material
chadam_211
not too shabby at all.....
keyholder4you
he can go freaky
we are actually doing a metephor of him as a new producer stranded in toronto
and I said I would hook you guys up
he is from New york
chadam_211
right on..............
keyholder4you
so you answered the call just in time
your bdsl correct?
chadam_211
yes
keyholder4you
Ok Im going to make a real time blog post
of the two of you conecting
http://www.clips4sale.com/store/22453
he shoots on an excel 2
good quality material
chadam_211
not too shabby at all.....
keyholder4you
he can go freaky
we are actually doing a metephor of him as a new producer stranded in toronto
and I said I would hook you guys up
he is from New york
chadam_211
right on..............
keyholder4you
so you answered the call just in time
your bdsl correct?
chadam_211
yes
keyholder4you
Ok Im going to make a real time blog post
of the two of you conecting
Danskin from amatuer foot brats and walter conference
Hi Danskin
toetaster
Hello walter
keyholder4you
thanks for your questions and I am looking forward to this lay terms
toetaster
Me to this will clear up and help many who are average users who dont know the in depth ins and outs
keyholder4you
so first send me over your link url. to amatuer foot brats
toetaster
http://www.clips4sale.com/store/22453
keyholder4you
Ok my first tip would be to get both an msn icon and yahoo icon letting your customers know you do custom orders
toetaster
if I do custom orders how do i use clips to process the payment for such an order if I dont have e-commerce in place most dont
keyholder4you
Custom video orders seem to save few tears at the end of each month . I saw a custom request last month for $800 .
Thats where you use video's for sale tool
toetaster
How does a person get a $800 payment via clips prosessing via videos for sale tool
keyholder4you
Its 75% to you %25 to clips
you create a video box called Custom orders at $500
$250
toetaster
so it gets listed on videos for sale not clips for sale
keyholder4you
$150
you can put those links on your main clips page
When they email or message you , direct them to those links
toetaster
I see I have done custom orders and billed it in clips as a long play clip in the past
keyholder4you
You have clicked on to my traffic support page from my yahoo link too correct ?
toetaster
correct
keyholder4you
From my Im
Ok so every day people can check on my activity and what I am building or editing
You want your customers popping in like that also
toetaster
not everyone can produce custom clips my question is this what does the guru suggest for the producer who has a ton of content but lacks the ability to get traffic to his or her store other then 1 upload per hr for clips traffic it seems most are gettijg content free.
keyholder4you
Free content and clip share theft is not going away any time soon
thats why building close tight friendships with your customer base is great
toetaster
I have found most are scared to interact with anyone in adult I even had a guy whos wife found his e-mail and sent me a long letter on how he has been caught and in deep shit..lol
this was from a mass mail about a new clip
keyholder4you
Our friendship for example covers several thousand miles and we have worked with our server friends on the east coast and midwest
guys sneeking porn lol .... thats as old as the oldest profession
toetaster
this is true I remember the day of guys using PO boxes to recieve there videos in the mail
keyholder4you
Jw is a great example he turns on his cam and makes lots of friends
toetaster
Yeah but he is the exception to the rule not everyone on clips wants to open themselves up to the world to see.
keyholder4you
lets guys watch , burns the fantasy in the brain and they buy his clips later
toetaster
what i think would help many is this a step by step guide to drive real traffic to the stores they have in a simple easy way that most can understand a game plan that works maybe a more elaborate way explained in a way most can handle a step at a time
keyholder4you
In any business 500 people a day need to know who you are . Give me a lawn mower and a 500 flyers and I will be mowing lawns the next day
Ok game plan
toetaster
yes but the web is a vast place with a lot of corners that will be a waste of time
time is what most dont have when working part time on clips
keyholder4you
Ok. I will give you an example
toetaster
maybe a list of real good places to put sample vid clips to promote that niche like foot fetish tube.com
keyholder4you
when I started with Neil I was on a tower dog tired every night
Sara shot me beat me for an hour and I spent an hour uploading
while she went on forums
with in a few weeks every friday was a shooting party with a dozen people
I was uploading all day Saturday
Lets do it metiphoricly
toetaster
I agree but don't you think for producers a LIST a network of def places worth the time listed would help them in a big way. A list of tube sites that are easy and let you place a link to your store beat them at there own game use them to promote instead of steal. Boards worth posting to that yield real reward and that are user friendly. A step by step guide with the ins and outs of how to get real traffic to the store outside JUST clips surfers. I think thats the issue people get caught up in 1 clip every hr non stop they run out of content and once they do they have no income coming in....
keyholder4you
we have that
http://neilslist.org/tutorials/message_boards.html
Thats a key Factor in JW Ties and Cory and Wonders success.
toetaster
ok but the average user does not see that I never did is that link listed on clips somewhere?
keyholder4you
Its being built in now
toetaster
dont you think a tube site list with niches would be perfect as well to beat them at there own game.
keyholder4you
there are many tube sites that are getting laods of external traffic
toetaster
use them to platform teaser clips to drive people to specific clips on that specific niche and beat them to it first.
keyholder4you
JW mentioned that %75 percent of his traffic is external now
toetaster
I know footfetishtube.com is a great one
keyholder4you
that is a dream come true
to have more producers bring more traffic
toetaster
thats the name of the game everything else is gravy but most dont know how to make this come about they get lost in the endless amount of dead end not worth while boards and sites that end up being a waste of hard to find time.
keyholder4you
nothing is a waste of time
toetaster
here is an example
keyholder4you
Lets start you from scratch Danskin
Because I may do this any ways to test the system hard
toetaster
I sent up clips to a site that was going to promote me samples I spent the time and efforts then found out they took the clips and the art work and used it on there own store and blocked me out once they had a bunch of stuff it happens all the time.
keyholder4you
Lets say I drop you in Toronto and all you have is a cam
your stranded
toetaster
ok
keyholder4you
So your first objective is to get to an internet cafe and jump on your yahoo and tell every one " I'm stranded !!!!!
#1 your next step would be to find a model on craigslist
#2 try to find some Torontonians that shoot also
So while your waiting.
You open your clips4sale.com store
#3. Open a top list of 100 of your favorite clip stores and let them know you are opening a new niche.
JW and J nova and wonder is a good example
to have on your top list .
toetaster
top list explain that one for new people
keyholder4you
a good one is to go to blogger or blog spot
like the one I have
and create 100 blogs with a link to the stores you like
There is an awesome stat counter too that lets you know how well your traffic is
and where it is coming from
The key to any great site is alexa standing
and google optimization
People need to find you in google
toetaster
any ways of doing that
keyholder4you
blogger has those tools built right in
crawlers and spiders
toetaster
so blog and let it do its own thing
keyholder4you
any event you type in will be tracked
and of course your key words are every important
twitter youtube wordpress are all new tools
Craigs list is my favorite of course I have met many cool people on it
a great example if you have access footage alos bro
is I have a friend in ottawa that is looking to buy some
also with clips
toetaster
elaborate
keyholder4you
He needs footage
because he is a busy promoter
Some people spend a week building hype on a clip before each release
go through every forum
and send a " My new clip will be released Next week" send me your special requests
So in your stranded in Toronto Quest you now have a $500 sale and some operating cash
toetaster
GOT CHA
keyholder4you
So lets say for example you got some requests and you gave me a hollar here in Vancouver. I could load you some clips
Wonder johnny and Jw could send you some clips
because your a nice guy with a network
toetaster
dont you need the proper paperwork to sell others clips that you did not produce?
keyholder4you
Of course paper work is a good thing
toetaster
thats a lot for the average guy with some content trying to sell his wears...lol
keyholder4you
lets assume Johnny and I and JW and Wonder know that and we own our content. I would not load content to a stranger
If you plan on loading one clip a month as a producer your not going to have the numbers that a pro who markets is going to have
toetaster
I was looking more on a direct step by step traffic building guide for dummies people who have content a store and want to maximize there time with direct efforts that pay off in a faster simplier way I am talking 1 clip every few hrs
keyholder4you
It really boils down to any campaign in business
My mail out list is 1400 plus on one store through hard work and joining boards
J nova is 1200 plus
toetaster
a person who has enough content because lets face it several people on clips come from there own sites that didnt work out or content shot years ago looking to use it again
keyholder4you
we took girls tied tight up to 800 hits
through network mail lists we have
Your mail tool is very valuable
toetaster
ever think of putting together a link a place were everyone can place there own links to things that work that have proven to work all in one place we all can access.
keyholder4you
there is 19 year old girls on myspace that get sports cars for gifts right ??
toetaster
sure but she aint me..lol
keyholder4you
well we aint the prettiest pair so if we where stranded we would need some stellar models to save us
toetaster
LOL speak fer yourself I am a stud muffin..lol
keyholder4you
My friend the other day needed a sewing machine
she put a posting in her lobby and craigs list and had a sewing machine right away
toetaster
what about a cornacopia of resources in one place that a new user can go and surf and shop for what will bring in traffic and ideas... Kind of like GFY but for clip producers...
keyholder4you
If you don't seek help you wont get help
thats what my blogger is for
if you build one it connects into every one elses
toetaster
I mean a list of links direct connections to boards tube sites content for sale ect ect ..
keyholder4you
building it also we have tumblr
every day I learn new things
toetaster
what is that
keyholder4you
so I update every day
toetaster
tumblr
keyholder4you
its another search engine optimized tool to meet new friends
When I started with neil a few years ago I went on a site called Plenty of fish and ended shooting with her this weekend
Cory just told me they are shooting around the clock
So I asked them what is the model resource they are using
neil will be hosting webenars also
and there are pro companies like adult business academy that can help you too
toetaster
there is no doubt networking works but most dont have all that time and a place with links to services content for sale trade tips tricks tube sites that work boards that are easy would be great...
the things you are saying are all valid but for most part time users they miss it and dont understand or see it all in one place I think a place of resource just for clips would be great.
keyholder4you
from cory to you
Sorry I have not been bugging you, been shooting models like a mad man.
keyholder4you
good boy
girl
Cory Chase
Thanks.
keyholder4you
what is your best resource for models ?
Cory Chase
Omp
Cory Chase is typing...
Omp
And producers recommend girls.
Like jw
toetaster
Think a place to trade content share content sell content trade ideas and links on places everyday that work direct connection from one spot. OMP has been around for ever there are many many places but most dont know it a single place for it all would be out of this world
keyholder4you
The girls are finding me now. From Cory again
toetaster
a tab off your adm area to this page that has it all gets bigger everyday ...
keyholder4you
For sure
Thats what neil has me on now . The bottom line is time managment and strong network
Guys like yourself helping us figure out trace route issues saving us tons of time for people over sea's
Clips4sale is like mining or panning for gold
toetaster
I think what I am getting at is a single place that has all this and everyones info they can toggle back and forth from to get the best out of every resource easy simple and fast...if people had this it would be fast simple and productive all in one place and not all over the place some of the links you sent me to I had no idea even exsisted.. The trace route issues can be there to to inform some so they are not at a complete loss.
keyholder4you
the more dirt you move the better your chances
100 % agreed. Writing full book here as we speak
The adult industry is fierce and every growing
toetaster
there is a guy on GFY that was selling clips of girl girl foot fetish footsie or sumthing that had a whole thing on that board worked out
keyholder4you
remeber this summer when xoxolovesimone sent me that house arrest braclet and we made a store out of it
new catagory's each day
toetaster
yep but I have learned its not the store its the traffic you can have the best looking store best content but no network no traffic NO SALES
keyholder4you
I heard another good one Real relationship horror story's
toetaster
I see stores with some low quality re hashed stuff making bank and so do others..lol..
keyholder4you
with a $100 Hd cam available and Craigs list we are in a golden age if your timing is good
toetaster
shit I have a aranian foot fetish sock fetish gas mask clip all in one its insane but without the correct people seeing it it does nothing...
keyholder4you
I noticed over the years also buyers are seasonal also
toetaster
always summer is slow winter is better..
keyholder4you
Labour day long weekend is a double edge
seen some big sales and other stores tank
toetaster
x mas DEAD holidays bad news !!!!
keyholder4you
Christmas day if your yahoo cam is going you might find a sailor missing home with a wad full of cash
Sara and I got that head shaving order for a few grand
was a chilly Christmas
toetaster
I am talking in general MOST are not looking at porn some yes most no...
I found the best time for me is a specific time of day and a specific day of the week that goes 2 days go figure..
keyholder4you
well what about the hotties like nadia who get macs for Christmas
from being on clips4sale.com
Sara's shoe gifts rivals Emelda Marco's
toetaster
there girls working over guys I am sure there are many guys possing as girls to get the same right?
keyholder4you
Sara gets her shoes from around the globe
because she is a straight shooter
toetaster
guys have been doing that since the days of placing ads in panty play and mags for worn panties ..lol
kind of like talking to the hot phone sex girl or aol chat girl who is a 64 yr old fat hairy slob with a desire to be a woman..lol
keyholder4you
well ... Its a world of buyer beware
toetaster
thats for sure...lol
keyholder4you
Neil is rock solid and they why I have never tried a clone site
toetaster
he is great big help indeed.
keyholder4you
and that brings me back to why yahoo is so important to communicate with clients
toetaster
lets make this part 1 have to run to dinner
keyholder4you
Ok sir
thank you for your questions
toetaster
set this as part 1 I have a few more things as I am sure do you..
keyholder4you
of course
toetaster
till next time bruthr thanks for your great help and time as always ...
keyholder4you
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toetaster has signed out.
toetaster
Hello walter
keyholder4you
thanks for your questions and I am looking forward to this lay terms
toetaster
Me to this will clear up and help many who are average users who dont know the in depth ins and outs
keyholder4you
so first send me over your link url. to amatuer foot brats
toetaster
http://www.clips4sale.com/store/22453
keyholder4you
Ok my first tip would be to get both an msn icon and yahoo icon letting your customers know you do custom orders
toetaster
if I do custom orders how do i use clips to process the payment for such an order if I dont have e-commerce in place most dont
keyholder4you
Custom video orders seem to save few tears at the end of each month . I saw a custom request last month for $800 .
Thats where you use video's for sale tool
toetaster
How does a person get a $800 payment via clips prosessing via videos for sale tool
keyholder4you
Its 75% to you %25 to clips
you create a video box called Custom orders at $500
$250
toetaster
so it gets listed on videos for sale not clips for sale
keyholder4you
$150
you can put those links on your main clips page
When they email or message you , direct them to those links
toetaster
I see I have done custom orders and billed it in clips as a long play clip in the past
keyholder4you
You have clicked on to my traffic support page from my yahoo link too correct ?
toetaster
correct
keyholder4you
From my Im
Ok so every day people can check on my activity and what I am building or editing
You want your customers popping in like that also
toetaster
not everyone can produce custom clips my question is this what does the guru suggest for the producer who has a ton of content but lacks the ability to get traffic to his or her store other then 1 upload per hr for clips traffic it seems most are gettijg content free.
keyholder4you
Free content and clip share theft is not going away any time soon
thats why building close tight friendships with your customer base is great
toetaster
I have found most are scared to interact with anyone in adult I even had a guy whos wife found his e-mail and sent me a long letter on how he has been caught and in deep shit..lol
this was from a mass mail about a new clip
keyholder4you
Our friendship for example covers several thousand miles and we have worked with our server friends on the east coast and midwest
guys sneeking porn lol .... thats as old as the oldest profession
toetaster
this is true I remember the day of guys using PO boxes to recieve there videos in the mail
keyholder4you
Jw is a great example he turns on his cam and makes lots of friends
toetaster
Yeah but he is the exception to the rule not everyone on clips wants to open themselves up to the world to see.
keyholder4you
lets guys watch , burns the fantasy in the brain and they buy his clips later
toetaster
what i think would help many is this a step by step guide to drive real traffic to the stores they have in a simple easy way that most can understand a game plan that works maybe a more elaborate way explained in a way most can handle a step at a time
keyholder4you
In any business 500 people a day need to know who you are . Give me a lawn mower and a 500 flyers and I will be mowing lawns the next day
Ok game plan
toetaster
yes but the web is a vast place with a lot of corners that will be a waste of time
time is what most dont have when working part time on clips
keyholder4you
Ok. I will give you an example
toetaster
maybe a list of real good places to put sample vid clips to promote that niche like foot fetish tube.com
keyholder4you
when I started with Neil I was on a tower dog tired every night
Sara shot me beat me for an hour and I spent an hour uploading
while she went on forums
with in a few weeks every friday was a shooting party with a dozen people
I was uploading all day Saturday
Lets do it metiphoricly
toetaster
I agree but don't you think for producers a LIST a network of def places worth the time listed would help them in a big way. A list of tube sites that are easy and let you place a link to your store beat them at there own game use them to promote instead of steal. Boards worth posting to that yield real reward and that are user friendly. A step by step guide with the ins and outs of how to get real traffic to the store outside JUST clips surfers. I think thats the issue people get caught up in 1 clip every hr non stop they run out of content and once they do they have no income coming in....
keyholder4you
we have that
http://neilslist.org/tutorials/message_boards.html
Thats a key Factor in JW Ties and Cory and Wonders success.
toetaster
ok but the average user does not see that I never did is that link listed on clips somewhere?
keyholder4you
Its being built in now
toetaster
dont you think a tube site list with niches would be perfect as well to beat them at there own game.
keyholder4you
there are many tube sites that are getting laods of external traffic
toetaster
use them to platform teaser clips to drive people to specific clips on that specific niche and beat them to it first.
keyholder4you
JW mentioned that %75 percent of his traffic is external now
toetaster
I know footfetishtube.com is a great one
keyholder4you
that is a dream come true
to have more producers bring more traffic
toetaster
thats the name of the game everything else is gravy but most dont know how to make this come about they get lost in the endless amount of dead end not worth while boards and sites that end up being a waste of hard to find time.
keyholder4you
nothing is a waste of time
toetaster
here is an example
keyholder4you
Lets start you from scratch Danskin
Because I may do this any ways to test the system hard
toetaster
I sent up clips to a site that was going to promote me samples I spent the time and efforts then found out they took the clips and the art work and used it on there own store and blocked me out once they had a bunch of stuff it happens all the time.
keyholder4you
Lets say I drop you in Toronto and all you have is a cam
your stranded
toetaster
ok
keyholder4you
So your first objective is to get to an internet cafe and jump on your yahoo and tell every one " I'm stranded !!!!!
#1 your next step would be to find a model on craigslist
#2 try to find some Torontonians that shoot also
So while your waiting.
You open your clips4sale.com store
#3. Open a top list of 100 of your favorite clip stores and let them know you are opening a new niche.
JW and J nova and wonder is a good example
to have on your top list .
toetaster
top list explain that one for new people
keyholder4you
a good one is to go to blogger or blog spot
like the one I have
and create 100 blogs with a link to the stores you like
There is an awesome stat counter too that lets you know how well your traffic is
and where it is coming from
The key to any great site is alexa standing
and google optimization
People need to find you in google
toetaster
any ways of doing that
keyholder4you
blogger has those tools built right in
crawlers and spiders
toetaster
so blog and let it do its own thing
keyholder4you
any event you type in will be tracked
and of course your key words are every important
twitter youtube wordpress are all new tools
Craigs list is my favorite of course I have met many cool people on it
a great example if you have access footage alos bro
is I have a friend in ottawa that is looking to buy some
also with clips
toetaster
elaborate
keyholder4you
He needs footage
because he is a busy promoter
Some people spend a week building hype on a clip before each release
go through every forum
and send a " My new clip will be released Next week" send me your special requests
So in your stranded in Toronto Quest you now have a $500 sale and some operating cash
toetaster
GOT CHA
keyholder4you
So lets say for example you got some requests and you gave me a hollar here in Vancouver. I could load you some clips
Wonder johnny and Jw could send you some clips
because your a nice guy with a network
toetaster
dont you need the proper paperwork to sell others clips that you did not produce?
keyholder4you
Of course paper work is a good thing
toetaster
thats a lot for the average guy with some content trying to sell his wears...lol
keyholder4you
lets assume Johnny and I and JW and Wonder know that and we own our content. I would not load content to a stranger
If you plan on loading one clip a month as a producer your not going to have the numbers that a pro who markets is going to have
toetaster
I was looking more on a direct step by step traffic building guide for dummies people who have content a store and want to maximize there time with direct efforts that pay off in a faster simplier way I am talking 1 clip every few hrs
keyholder4you
It really boils down to any campaign in business
My mail out list is 1400 plus on one store through hard work and joining boards
J nova is 1200 plus
toetaster
a person who has enough content because lets face it several people on clips come from there own sites that didnt work out or content shot years ago looking to use it again
keyholder4you
we took girls tied tight up to 800 hits
through network mail lists we have
Your mail tool is very valuable
toetaster
ever think of putting together a link a place were everyone can place there own links to things that work that have proven to work all in one place we all can access.
keyholder4you
there is 19 year old girls on myspace that get sports cars for gifts right ??
toetaster
sure but she aint me..lol
keyholder4you
well we aint the prettiest pair so if we where stranded we would need some stellar models to save us
toetaster
LOL speak fer yourself I am a stud muffin..lol
keyholder4you
My friend the other day needed a sewing machine
she put a posting in her lobby and craigs list and had a sewing machine right away
toetaster
what about a cornacopia of resources in one place that a new user can go and surf and shop for what will bring in traffic and ideas... Kind of like GFY but for clip producers...
keyholder4you
If you don't seek help you wont get help
thats what my blogger is for
if you build one it connects into every one elses
toetaster
I mean a list of links direct connections to boards tube sites content for sale ect ect ..
keyholder4you
building it also we have tumblr
every day I learn new things
toetaster
what is that
keyholder4you
so I update every day
toetaster
tumblr
keyholder4you
its another search engine optimized tool to meet new friends
When I started with neil a few years ago I went on a site called Plenty of fish and ended shooting with her this weekend
Cory just told me they are shooting around the clock
So I asked them what is the model resource they are using
neil will be hosting webenars also
and there are pro companies like adult business academy that can help you too
toetaster
there is no doubt networking works but most dont have all that time and a place with links to services content for sale trade tips tricks tube sites that work boards that are easy would be great...
the things you are saying are all valid but for most part time users they miss it and dont understand or see it all in one place I think a place of resource just for clips would be great.
keyholder4you
from cory to you
Sorry I have not been bugging you, been shooting models like a mad man.
keyholder4you
good boy
girl
Cory Chase
Thanks.
keyholder4you
what is your best resource for models ?
Cory Chase
Omp
Cory Chase is typing...
Omp
And producers recommend girls.
Like jw
toetaster
Think a place to trade content share content sell content trade ideas and links on places everyday that work direct connection from one spot. OMP has been around for ever there are many many places but most dont know it a single place for it all would be out of this world
keyholder4you
The girls are finding me now. From Cory again
toetaster
a tab off your adm area to this page that has it all gets bigger everyday ...
keyholder4you
For sure
Thats what neil has me on now . The bottom line is time managment and strong network
Guys like yourself helping us figure out trace route issues saving us tons of time for people over sea's
Clips4sale is like mining or panning for gold
toetaster
I think what I am getting at is a single place that has all this and everyones info they can toggle back and forth from to get the best out of every resource easy simple and fast...if people had this it would be fast simple and productive all in one place and not all over the place some of the links you sent me to I had no idea even exsisted.. The trace route issues can be there to to inform some so they are not at a complete loss.
keyholder4you
the more dirt you move the better your chances
100 % agreed. Writing full book here as we speak
The adult industry is fierce and every growing
toetaster
there is a guy on GFY that was selling clips of girl girl foot fetish footsie or sumthing that had a whole thing on that board worked out
keyholder4you
remeber this summer when xoxolovesimone sent me that house arrest braclet and we made a store out of it
new catagory's each day
toetaster
yep but I have learned its not the store its the traffic you can have the best looking store best content but no network no traffic NO SALES
keyholder4you
I heard another good one Real relationship horror story's
toetaster
I see stores with some low quality re hashed stuff making bank and so do others..lol..
keyholder4you
with a $100 Hd cam available and Craigs list we are in a golden age if your timing is good
toetaster
shit I have a aranian foot fetish sock fetish gas mask clip all in one its insane but without the correct people seeing it it does nothing...
keyholder4you
I noticed over the years also buyers are seasonal also
toetaster
always summer is slow winter is better..
keyholder4you
Labour day long weekend is a double edge
seen some big sales and other stores tank
toetaster
x mas DEAD holidays bad news !!!!
keyholder4you
Christmas day if your yahoo cam is going you might find a sailor missing home with a wad full of cash
Sara and I got that head shaving order for a few grand
was a chilly Christmas
toetaster
I am talking in general MOST are not looking at porn some yes most no...
I found the best time for me is a specific time of day and a specific day of the week that goes 2 days go figure..
keyholder4you
well what about the hotties like nadia who get macs for Christmas
from being on clips4sale.com
Sara's shoe gifts rivals Emelda Marco's
toetaster
there girls working over guys I am sure there are many guys possing as girls to get the same right?
keyholder4you
Sara gets her shoes from around the globe
because she is a straight shooter
toetaster
guys have been doing that since the days of placing ads in panty play and mags for worn panties ..lol
kind of like talking to the hot phone sex girl or aol chat girl who is a 64 yr old fat hairy slob with a desire to be a woman..lol
keyholder4you
well ... Its a world of buyer beware
toetaster
thats for sure...lol
keyholder4you
Neil is rock solid and they why I have never tried a clone site
toetaster
he is great big help indeed.
keyholder4you
and that brings me back to why yahoo is so important to communicate with clients
toetaster
lets make this part 1 have to run to dinner
keyholder4you
Ok sir
thank you for your questions
toetaster
set this as part 1 I have a few more things as I am sure do you..
keyholder4you
of course
toetaster
till next time bruthr thanks for your great help and time as always ...
keyholder4you
You too
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